“I hope there’s a world where you don’t have to come out of the closet because you never have to go in. We get to see each other for pure humanity and not what makes us different.” @carlnassib Another big pivot for us today as we have a conversation that we’ve been wanting to have for awhile and discuss what some may consider an uncomfortable topic but one @realrclark @fredtaylor @channingcrowder were eager to have for the reasons that truly matter. Carl Nassib was the first active NFL player to identify as gay during the height of his football career. In this episode, we recognize Carl’s courage, his unbelievable football journey and show through our authentic back and forth that at the root of all of our differences, there is common ground to be celebrated in every human. We touch on the pivotal moments of Carl’s life, his tough decisions and we laugh a lot, bringing a locker room comfort to this conversation. Full episode streaming now on all audio platforms and @youtube #nfl #pennstate #lgbtq #football #raiders #smithsonian #podcast